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the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out of this debate, we're going to be making sure people understand, and the president said this, romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'm going to replace obama care. romney said he's going to repeal wall street reform. as the president said, these are plans that are harm the middle class and our economy. again, i would step back. the drivers in this election, romney's huge tax cut for the wealthy. his support of medicare vouchers. his support of repealing wall street reform. our ad we're running right now, the two arguments the president makes against the romney approach are, he wants a huge tax cut for the wealthy. that's the same trickle down economics and he wants to roll back wall street reform. i don't think anybody in america missed the point the president made that those things are bad for the economy and the middle class. >> why didn't the president mention tonight that we've had 30 months of private sector job growth? that's
the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out of this debate, we're going to be making sure people understand, and the president said this, romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'm going to replace obama care. romney said he's going to repeal wall street reform. as the president said, these are plans that are harm the middle class and our economy. again, i would step back. the drivers in this election, romney's huge tax cut...
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governor romney would be a return, the trickle down economies that failed the middle class and failed the country. there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >> well, i think i -- he is. you know, chuck, this is the cornerstone of his entire campaign and his economic plan. it really was a remarkable thing. it would be like in 2008 if we got on the stage and said i don't want to end the iraq war and i'm not for health care reform. you know, i don't want to have a green energy future. it is an amazing thing. and the reason he is trying to obfuscate here is because that tax cut plan is something the american people don't want to support. a huge tax cut for the wealthy paid for by the middle class or blowing a hole in our deficit. the wrong recipe for both david, he sa
governor romney would be a return, the trickle down economies that failed the middle class and failed the country. there is obviously an important debate next week between our vice president and paul ryan. we have another debate in 11 days. we look forward to continuing to make the case. >> you used the words i think dishonest or not making an honest argument. you just did it again. do you believe that mitt romney is intentionally lying about his record or lying about his plans? >>...
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romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the way, romney talked about card check on the stump since the primaries. others call it the employee free choice act. it was a priority four years ago. it never passed because a few democrats helped kill it. it's faded from the debate since 2009. that's why it was odd to hear
romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had...
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nbc/marist, you put out data this morning, close in several states but still in ohio, mitt romney down by 8 points among likely voters. i think that's very problematic for him. if he loses ohio getting to 270 electoral votes becomes not impossible but much more difficult. >> at the same time in the national poll, right track up to 40%, still not great, but it's the highest number we've seen in a number of years. this is better for the president. the enthusiasm gap still favors the president. >> yeah. the right track number i think is fascinating, andrea, because there's no obvious reason in the country in terms of economic indicators or anything else that people should be all of a sudden getting more optimistic about the direction of the country after they spent several years in the 30s in terms of people saying right direction but you're right, any kind of boost of optimism, and you've actually seen president obama moving in coordination with this, the question of is president obama handling the economy still not great but better. anything like that, helps the incumbent. remember, pre
nbc/marist, you put out data this morning, close in several states but still in ohio, mitt romney down by 8 points among likely voters. i think that's very problematic for him. if he loses ohio getting to 270 electoral votes becomes not impossible but much more difficult. >> at the same time in the national poll, right track up to 40%, still not great, but it's the highest number we've seen in a number of years. this is better for the president. the enthusiasm gap still favors the...
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and right now, romney is down there by at least five points or so. >> jonathan martin, thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you, andrea. >> up next, former bush speechwriter michael gerson on the new mitt romney and send me your thoughts on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. this is "andrea mitchell reports." check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> topping the headlines on "andrea mitchell reports" secretary of homeland security janet napolitano has arrived in arizona to meet with the family of slain border patrol agent nicolas ivy. investigators are looking at the possibility he was killed by friendly fire or tuesday. >>> a new york man was killed after he opened fire in a seaside hotel. he had been fired in a company that provides tourists from internships. >>> american airlines grounded boeing 747s to fix seats that might pop loose. the airline says a combination of poor design and overuse have caused the seat
and right now, romney is down there by at least five points or so. >> jonathan martin, thank you so much. good to see you. >> thank you, andrea. >> up next, former bush speechwriter michael gerson on the new mitt romney and send me your thoughts on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. this is "andrea mitchell reports." check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's...
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we will break down our new national poll to see where the race is tightening slightly in romney's favor. the most important number may be romney's 47%. the deep dive down memory lane for the good, bad and ugly of the modern presidential debate, the winners, losers, zingers and the awkward that help decide. good morning from the university of denver. a beautiful campus here, debate day, wednesday, october 3. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first read. everything has been said about the importance of tonight's debate. now it is up to the candidates themselves who will meet on the university of denver on the same stage. romney has inched up slightly in our "wall street journal" poll. the bad news when you dig deeper you see the structural problems facing romney as he tries to catch up and how damaging the 47% remark was and is to the campaign. is there such a thing as a commanding lead? if so he has it. president obama's job approval rating is at 49%. 48% disapprove of his performance. 40% believe the country is headed in the right direction. the highest number
we will break down our new national poll to see where the race is tightening slightly in romney's favor. the most important number may be romney's 47%. the deep dive down memory lane for the good, bad and ugly of the modern presidential debate, the winners, losers, zingers and the awkward that help decide. good morning from the university of denver. a beautiful campus here, debate day, wednesday, october 3. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. let's get to my first read....
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as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid. we don't remember that the polls have shown republicans up a lot. and secondly this idea that people in the media, if their personal views go one way, the product of the reporting goes another way. i don't think there's resonating with the public at all. if you go back to important media failures like the iraq war or the financial crisis, on iraq there may have been a lot of reporters who were personally skeptical but there was a collective media failure in the way they covered it. so the idea that someone's personal views are always going to represent them in what they write or how they report, i don't think that computes, i think you would have to be dumb or tuned out to buy the crap that paul ryan is peddling there. >> and then there's the question of who is the real arnold schwarzenegg
as a plutokrat, someone out of touch with the main stream and romney doubles down on obama's strategy with this video that came out. so they're in a real situation here and they've got a short time to right it. >> it's offensive if you unpack and think about it. what he's saying is we're all stupid. we don't remember that the polls have shown republicans up a lot. and secondly this idea that people in the media, if their personal views go one way, the product of the reporting goes another...
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i think the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out on issues like pre-existing conditions, we'll make sure people understand and the president said this. romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'll replace obama care but he won't say with what. he said he'll appeal wall street reform and put regulations back in place but he won't share them with the american people. does anyone think they're too good for the middle class? these are plans that will harm the middle class and our economy and again, i would step back. the drivers in this election, romney's huge tax cut for the wealthy. his supportive medicare vouchers. his supportive repeal and wall street reform. our ad we're running, two-minute ad in battleground states the two arguments the president makes against the romney approach is he wants a huge tax cut for the wealthy and he wants to roll back wall street reform. yooeng anybody in america missed the point the president made that those things are bad for our economy and bad for
i think the president was clear about pinning romney down on medicare. as we come out on issues like pre-existing conditions, we'll make sure people understand and the president said this. romney says he's going to cut loopholes but he won't name them. romney said i'll replace obama care but he won't say with what. he said he'll appeal wall street reform and put regulations back in place but he won't share them with the american people. does anyone think they're too good for the middle class?...
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one presidential debate down. two more to go. during the 97 minutes of last night's debate, president obama had a slight advantage in speaking time. if you look closely at the kinds of words used or not used, you may be surprised. middle income was the favorite word for mitt romney. middle class was the preferred term for the president. terms that didn't come up. bain capital. 47%. contraception, abortion. and tax returns. jonathan martin from politico. i have one more statistic to put out. as somebody who has been with me having to cover obama for so long, obama had more air time speaking. guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that presi
one presidential debate down. two more to go. during the 97 minutes of last night's debate, president obama had a slight advantage in speaking time. if you look closely at the kinds of words used or not used, you may be surprised. middle income was the favorite word for mitt romney. middle class was the preferred term for the president. terms that didn't come up. bain capital. 47%. contraception, abortion. and tax returns. jonathan martin from politico. i have one more statistic to put out. as...
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>> it's a very different game when you're down 7 or 8 in the polls. at the end of the day, the president under 50 is a weak incumbent. what we're going to see is the turnout operation and i think the romney campaign has built a really good get out the vote operation. >> are you confident it's as good as '04. >> it's as good as '04 and will be by the time election day rolls around. obama has spent so much money on the ground game. but if you don't have much enthusiasm as we saw in the pew poll, it's difficult to get the turnout. >> the obama campaign has turned their '08 operation into like the new star wars. >> he's in columbus ohio today for a reason. >> i went to four campaign offices for a reason. they did 10,000 voter -- they really have volunteers, they have people on the ground, they feel very confident people are now focused on that. >> and the republicans have an edge on absentee -- it's a sign of organization. >> you've got to have boots on the ground tracking voters. >> there's only a concern in that there was a big influx of requests. so yo
>> it's a very different game when you're down 7 or 8 in the polls. at the end of the day, the president under 50 is a weak incumbent. what we're going to see is the turnout operation and i think the romney campaign has built a really good get out the vote operation. >> are you confident it's as good as '04. >> it's as good as '04 and will be by the time election day rolls around. obama has spent so much money on the ground game. but if you don't have much enthusiasm as we saw...
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romney said last night he wants to sit down with democrats and work out a solution to health care and so on. what ft. you're faced with a president romney. what would you tell him about health care? >> what i would tell him is that health care is probably the most important thing that we have done in this congress because it's saving many people's lives. >> you haven't done much else, sir, have you? >> i would say to him that i don't think that he has a plan to replace it. he's not going to replace, martin, adessing the pre-existing conditions, our young people staying on their policies until they're 26 years old, and helping the people i see in my district who now are able to get health care that weren't able to get health care before. and so, you know, again, i think mr. romney talks about his success, by the way, with regard to the folks in massachusetts, but he's got to remember that he was dealing with a democratic congress -- democratic legislature who wanted to get things done for the people in massachusetts. >> he's claiming it's all credit to him, sir. mr. romney keeps tellin
romney said last night he wants to sit down with democrats and work out a solution to health care and so on. what ft. you're faced with a president romney. what would you tell him about health care? >> what i would tell him is that health care is probably the most important thing that we have done in this congress because it's saving many people's lives. >> you haven't done much else, sir, have you? >> i would say to him that i don't think that he has a plan to replace it....
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romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is actively manipulating that data, correct? >> well, absolutely. >> good news is all this conspiracy may open up even more jobs. demand for the manufacture and sale of tin foil is increasing as we speak. essential material for all those tin hats. here in new york jonathan alter, a columnist for bloomberg view and democratic strategist julian epstein and john harwood, chief washington correspondent and political writer for "the new york times." julian, so, the bureau of labor statistics is now to be lumped in with fa
romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a...
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it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. >>> coming up, new poll numbers show mitt romney's 47% comments have take an toll. can tomorrow's debate be a game changer? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me for a debate preview, next. >>> the obama campaign launches a new ad targeting mitt romney's investment in china with bain capital. we'll have the response and talk with ohio senator sherrod brown. >>> and a big day for swing state voters. early voting begins in ohio and a pennsylvania court blocks a voter i.d. law. all the details. share your thoughts on facebook and on twitter using the #edshow. >>> thanks for watching "the ed show." mitt romney is running behind in the polls. he needs to
it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. >>> coming up, new poll numbers show mitt romney's 47% comments have take an toll. can tomorrow's...
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governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney ahead among likely voters. it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of t
governor romney's plan is to let wall street run wild again but he's going to bring the hammer down on sesame street. >> one thing that president obama can't run on is his record, and so big bird, i guess, is a fun thing to talk about. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. president obama and mitt romney are heading back to ohio today in a very different situation than the last time they campaigned in the battleground state. the new pew poll know shows governor romney...
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it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can
it's all about top down. >> all right. robert gibbs, great to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow. the romney camp says they are prepared for the 47% comments. can he reverse the damage? richard wolffe and alex wagner will join me next for the discussion. stay tuned. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who...
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with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height. >> when avis boy my mom and dad used to read to me from a book called "men to match my mountains." perhaps we should change the title to "men and women to match my mountains" because right here men and women have matched the mountains of colorado. >> he's really working on the zingers. we see what you did there, mitt, adding women into the mix. nice. anything to do with the president's 18-point lead with women putting him four points above romney nationwide? no, i'm sure not. by the way, the same poll shows voters expect 54% to 28% that the president will win the dae bates. the president doe
with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height....
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you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign -- >> it doesn't. >> at this stage of the game it doesn't matter. i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. you know that old saying if you stand for nothing you won't stand for anything? well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't really have any values or principles that he really believes in except he really wants to be president. that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that
you have to sign down here no taxes. >> it doesn't matter what you sign -- >> it doesn't. >> at this stage of the game it doesn't matter. i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely...
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is christie off message when he predicted it comes down to wednesday for governor romney or simply saying what everyone else is thinking? that's our gut check. we'll take a look at debate strategy from romney's zinger preps to the president's team trying to keep his answers short and to the point. a professor who's actually an expert on political rhetoric, what he says you should be watching for during the debate. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing a stunning work of technology -- the entirely new lexus es. and the first-ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. [ "the odd couple" theme playing ] humans. even when we cross our "t"s and dot our "i"s, we still run into problems -- mainly other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance expert about everything else that com
is christie off message when he predicted it comes down to wednesday for governor romney or simply saying what everyone else is thinking? that's our gut check. we'll take a look at debate strategy from romney's zinger preps to the president's team trying to keep his answers short and to the point. a professor who's actually an expert on political rhetoric, what he says you should be watching for during the debate. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing a reason...to look twice. introducing...
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this could be a strategy that goes down a bad path for him ultimately. it's all very well for his wife and sons to say be yourself. that could be problematic for mitt romney. >> i think that's exactly right. probably the biggest failing of the president in the debate was not to knock mitt romney off balance. those times in the republican primary when he had the worst moments, the $10,000 bet, i was run are for office for pete's sake, he was improvising and was off balance. >> krystal ball, lilian a, thank you for coming on. we head to ohio university where president obama is about to take the stage. will i am is firing up the crowd. stay with us. this isn't just a headache. trust me, this is new bayer migraine. [ male announcer ] it's the power of aspirin plus more in a triple action formula to relieve your tough migraines. new bayer migraine formula. i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix is proven to help people quit smoking. it reduces the urge to smoke. it put me at ease
this could be a strategy that goes down a bad path for him ultimately. it's all very well for his wife and sons to say be yourself. that could be problematic for mitt romney. >> i think that's exactly right. probably the biggest failing of the president in the debate was not to knock mitt romney off balance. those times in the republican primary when he had the worst moments, the $10,000 bet, i was run are for office for pete's sake, he was improvising and was off balance. >>...
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he just tried to talk romney down. and the numbers are a moment where he's going to have to do that and say why are these numbers bad and why will they be better if you re-elect me? >> gene, both camps have not really talked about the next four years. the romney people have been open about it up until recently when i think "the wall street journal" and a lot of conservatives have smoked them out, so they're getting a little more specific on deductions and a few other issues. but you could say the same thing about the president's team. they made the calculated decision to not talk about what they're going to do over the next four years. and that puts an incumbent in the position to do nothing but defend the last four years, doesn't it? >> well, it seems to me, look, what do people want to hear? i mean, really, what do people want to hear? why are they going to vote for one candidate or the other? it's what they're going to do over the next term. you know, we said on this program months and months ago that the winner of
he just tried to talk romney down. and the numbers are a moment where he's going to have to do that and say why are these numbers bad and why will they be better if you re-elect me? >> gene, both camps have not really talked about the next four years. the romney people have been open about it up until recently when i think "the wall street journal" and a lot of conservatives have smoked them out, so they're getting a little more specific on deductions and a few other issues. but...
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>> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come down after the post-convention. you're seeing it sort of return to a place where it was very tight. you saw aa shift among independents in florida, which is what made up a lot of that shift. the striking thing about all three polls is how few persuadable voters there are. that's what these debates are usually about but it may wind up be something to turn out the base and fire up some of their people. >> one of the issue, i put this to both of you, one of the problems with mitt romney's campaign, which has been critiqued by those on the left and right, his friends and enemies, is that he lacks specificity. when he comes to the specifics for ordinary americans, like whether they're going to lose their mortgage interest tax relief, what does he do tonight, having spent the last two years not giving us any detail? . it's interesting on that because i think the real issue with that study that was done over the summer by the tax policy center is that what it basically says is that they assume romney would have to cut some
>> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come down after the post-convention. you're seeing it sort of return to a place where it was very tight. you saw aa shift among independents in florida, which is what made up a lot of that shift. the striking thing about all three polls is how few persuadable voters there are. that's what these debates are usually about but it may wind up be something to turn out the base and fire up some of their people. >> one of the issue, i...
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we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight ahead with the latest numbers. we've got a lot to get to. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i want you to know that, also, i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be cool if we took the nissan altima and reimagined nearly everything in it? gave it greater horsepower and best in class 38 mpg highway... advanced headlights... and zero gravity seats? yeah, that would be cool. ♪ intro
we'll see how skillful romney is. the advantage we have is, steve is here with us. >> right now there's a romney strategist rushing a memo to mr. romney in his prep room saying, the liberals on msnbc say -- we'll see if they take this. we've got to take a quick break. tonight is probably as big as it gets in terms of the persuadable audience watching tonight to make up their mind between these two candidates. it may not get bigger than it is tonight. we have nbc's chuck today straight...
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if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on that record. joe biden can say to paul ryan, that $716 billion that you and romney keep on saying we are robbing from medicare, we are not robbing from medicare. we're actually extending the life of medicare. you, ryan, you use that 7$716 billion in your budget plan and yet you put it in there based upon you actually turning medicare into a voucher program. ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan
if this race comes down to ohio and the auto rescue plays a major role there, that's a tough headline to counter for mr. ryan, isn't it? >> it certainly is. and what people in ohio and in the midwest generally know is the auto bailouts were critically important. ryan and romney said no to the auto bailouts and the president and the vice president said yes in the face of a lot of criticism and they have been proven right. paul ryan is an ideologue. he has a record and joe biden can pick on...
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chuck, break down the polls for us. >> well, you know, it's been interesting about him. we've got a new poll that comes out tonight. what i've thought interesting about the polls in the last few days, quinnipiac, cnn, they all show the same thing. the president's number, the bounce he got out of the convention, it has not deflated. he is staying in the 49%, 50%. >> granholm. >> the fluidity is in romney's number. romney is anywhere, instead of sitting in the single digits, instead of the low 40s, he's moved up to the mid-40s, inching up to 46% or 47%. that shows you where the give is. that's good news for romney, the bad news is, he needs the president to deflate a little bit. he's got to start peeling -- granted this is step one which is catching up, step two is then to peel away a little bit from the president. >> so much easier said than done. rattner? >> chuck, what about the issue that romney is doing so well in the red states that makes the race look closer on a national basis but when you get into the swing state polls, obama is now opening so much daylight it's g
chuck, break down the polls for us. >> well, you know, it's been interesting about him. we've got a new poll that comes out tonight. what i've thought interesting about the polls in the last few days, quinnipiac, cnn, they all show the same thing. the president's number, the bounce he got out of the convention, it has not deflated. he is staying in the 49%, 50%. >> granholm. >> the fluidity is in romney's number. romney is anywhere, instead of sitting in the single digits,...
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and president obama choosing to look mostly at jim lehrer or looking down. and what message do the viewers at home pick up on that. >> governor romney's body language was pretty good and that expression on his face which was an expression, those of white house follow him was familiar w as kind of a half smile, not a smirk-- . >> stephen: yes, brit, mitt had a confident half smile, like this. (laughter) not a smirk like this-- (laughter) and definitely not a big bright rick human smile like this-- hume smile like this (laughter) so ultimately, folks, choosing the leader of the free world is clearly all about how it looks. so for those of you who did not have an hour and a half to waste last night, here's how it looks. >> we welcome president obama and governor romney. (applause) (laughter) (applause) thank you and good night. >> stephen: pretty much captures it. now of course a lot of belly acres on the left, incidentally bellyaching not covered under romney's plan, insisted on paying attention to the words they said, and pointed out that mitt changing almost
and president obama choosing to look mostly at jim lehrer or looking down. and what message do the viewers at home pick up on that. >> governor romney's body language was pretty good and that expression on his face which was an expression, those of white house follow him was familiar w as kind of a half smile, not a smirk-- . >> stephen: yes, brit, mitt had a confident half smile, like this. (laughter) not a smirk like this-- (laughter) and definitely not a big bright rick human...
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. >> romney won hands down. >> he was very, very bad last night. >> there is no red america, there is no play america, there is only the america that can't believe how bad this guy did in the debate! >> he may have been listless on the debate stage wednesday night, but ever since then president obama's been hammering mitt romney for being a real slim shady. >> now my opponent you know has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got to gshs got an extreme make-over. but -- but the bottom line is, his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. >> chicago's message to american voters, don't be fooled. >> this was the first chance for the president to see how governor romney operates in these debates firsthand and you have to make some adjustments for the fact that he is kind of a serial evader, a sort of artful dodger. >> and while obama was reluctant to take the fight to romney in front of 67 million people two nights ago -- >> right now you can actually take a deduction for moving a plant overseas. i think most americans would say that doesn't make
. >> romney won hands down. >> he was very, very bad last night. >> there is no red america, there is no play america, there is only the america that can't believe how bad this guy did in the debate! >> he may have been listless on the debate stage wednesday night, but ever since then president obama's been hammering mitt romney for being a real slim shady. >> now my opponent you know has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got to gshs got an extreme...
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i liked romney's style. i didn't like the president laying down. i think it was a big disappointment to people who like and feel strongly about president obama. >> rose: back to the earlier point i made but you reinforced it sometimes when you are a quarterback or if you are a boxer you have the best plan and at the first hit, you know, you forget the plan and you go back into something you, you for got where you are. >> preparing for a debate when the people around you are all on your side is not always a good idea, and sometimes you don't need a yes person in the room, that's great, that's great, that's great. i don't think he was properly prepared and i think this suggestion that the strategy was to stay above the fray and act president cull, wrong that works on a live stage, i think that may work in the oval office not when you in front of 50 million americans. >> rose: that did you think of this aspect of it? >> i think you can understand where they were coming from, where the obama team was coming from here. they have a lead, and he is the pr
i liked romney's style. i didn't like the president laying down. i think it was a big disappointment to people who like and feel strongly about president obama. >> rose: back to the earlier point i made but you reinforced it sometimes when you are a quarterback or if you are a boxer you have the best plan and at the first hit, you know, you forget the plan and you go back into something you, you for got where you are. >> preparing for a debate when the people around you are all on...
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which will not be popular among democrats as you sit down with them. >> mitt romney and president obama spar over health care and who can get things done in health care. who made the best case and who was the best middle class messenger? bernie sanders and cay bailey hutchinson join me next to talk about that. >>> plus, it turns out big bird was the clear win ore it have debate. we'll explain. and we'll get your thoughts on what you witnessed last night in the first 2012 presidential debate. was mitt romney's debate performance the october surprise? weigh in on twitter, you'll find us @thomasaroberts. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. that's a good thing, but it doesn't cover everything. only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help save you up to thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call today to req
which will not be popular among democrats as you sit down with them. >> mitt romney and president obama spar over health care and who can get things done in health care. who made the best case and who was the best middle class messenger? bernie sanders and cay bailey hutchinson join me next to talk about that. >>> plus, it turns out big bird was the clear win ore it have debate. we'll explain. and we'll get your thoughts on what you witnessed last night in the first 2012...
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i instead want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. >> romney awoke to rave reviews across the country and democrats admit he delivered. >> virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. that's the wrong way to go. we know that the path we're taking is not work that you're entitled to your own plane and house but not your own facts. >> quoting, though not by name, saying the middle class has been buried over the last four years. >> the people having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policies, middle income americans have been buried. they're being crushed. >> romney was loose and managed to all but call the president an immature fibber without being rude. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut. on top of the extension to the bush tax cuts. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut. of a scale that you're talking about. i will not reduce the share paid by high income individuals. i know that you and your running mate keep saying that and i know it's a popular
i instead want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. >> romney awoke to rave reviews across the country and democrats admit he delivered. >> virtually everything you said about my tax plan is inaccurate. that's the wrong way to go. we know that the path we're taking is not work that you're entitled to your own plane and house but not your own facts. >> quoting, though not by name, saying the middle class has been buried over the last four years. >>...
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to say, what points to pin him down on. romney won the debate. last night romney was more skilled. it doesn't change the policies. >> ezra, will the strategy work in the next two debates that heavy here? will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials. romney will change up his strategy. in general first debates are lopsided. the incumbent tends to recover a little bit in the second debate. whether we'll follow that trend line is anybody's guess. >> thank you, ezra. appreciate it. now to the third person on stage at the debates last night, you. yes, you didn't have a vocal response, but let me tell you, every moment people like you were chiming in. twitter reports today that it was the most tweeted event in u.s. politics generating over 10 million tweets in 90 minutes. perspective, that means ju
to say, what points to pin him down on. romney won the debate. last night romney was more skilled. it doesn't change the policies. >> ezra, will the strategy work in the next two debates that heavy here? will this vague strategy work with foreign policy and the next debate beyond that? >> i think that the obama team is going to be more ready for what romney's able to bring to the debate than they were in this one. they'll be prepared for romney to walk in and tell his credentials....